William Lachance ([info]wlach) wrote,
@ 2007-04-17 01:30:00
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Some thoughts on the suburbs, mass transit, and politics
A little late, but I've been meaning to talk about this for a while:

Although it's been years and years since I've actually lived in Ottawa, I still go back fairly frequently to visit. When I do, I invariably get an update on municipal policy from my mother. The most recent story of note was the cancellation of the O-Train project after the recent municipal elections, when a conservative mayor was elected.

Urbanities blamed the "idiots from suburbia" for this. And indeed, most of the votes for Larry O'Brien (Ottawa's new conservative mayor) did come from the suburbs. But ultimately, this never really struck me as being a particularly constructive point of view: people who live outside of the metro area never struck me as being dumber, less reasonable, or less well informed than those who live inside it. They may have made a different choice as far as living arrangements than I have (or will, if I can help it), but their reasons for doing at least understandable to me.

Even if they weren't understandable, it would be rather pompous and self-righteous of me to tell other people how to go about living their lives. The suburban dream's realization may ultimately be something of a nightmare, but calling people idiots and their aspirations stupid isn't likely to endear them to your point of view. If we want to create a better world, wouldn't it be preferable to enact policies and build infrastructure that would enable these people to realize those aspirations?

And, come to think of it, wouldn't a light rail system linking the suburbs with the center of the city be exactly this sort of thing? Even if you didn't use it, it would mean a shorter commute to work because of reduced traffic congestion, an overall reduction in smog and CO2 emissions, an increase in property values, and a whole host of other things which should play exactly to the needs of these people. What's really going on here?

In fact, it's pretty simple. In order to settle a political score with one of his enemies, John Baird, minister of the environment in Canada's "new" government, inappropriately leaked information and withheld funding during the campaign. This cast a negative light on the project from which it never recovered. It was canceled in December 2006, ultimately costing the city seventy five million dollars in fines:

http://thetyee.ca/News/2007/01/23/LightRail/
http://www.clivedoucet.com/articles/gm030707greenerwash.htm

Changing the North American mentality just isn't going to happen overnight. Not without a crisis, anyway. But corrupt politicians using their power inappropriately? At the very least we can draw attention to them and try to ensure that they (and their "new" government) don't get re-elected.




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[info]morethanreal
2007-04-17 08:37 am UTC (link)
I tend to think the modern urban planning theories at the turn of the 20th century directly affected the cities and suburbs work in North America. The bright, clean cities where the automobile is the primary form of transportation must sound good in comparison to the decaying old cities at the time. It was easier to build new cities based on this theory than to tear down old neighborhoods, luckily (sort of).

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[info]wlach
2007-04-17 03:44 pm UTC (link)
Right, the idea was and still is "country living for everyone", powered by a revolutionary form of transportation. The problem is that the idea just doesn't scale efficiently.

We have a problem, made worse by governments with a narrow ideology trying to play off the interest groups created by the current situation for naked political gain. It's really disappointing to see this happen right now, when it might be possible to actually make a real difference... we probably won't have the same abundance of resources to do so in ten years. Even now we're beginning to see signs that supply of fossil fuel isn't keeping pace with increases in demand.

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[info]dcoombs
2007-04-17 11:27 am UTC (link)
Ah geez, they cancelled the O-Train? I hadn't heard that. That's depressing.

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[info]wlach
2007-04-17 04:17 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, it makes me really angry to see a great project canceled for such stupid reasons.

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[info]hub_
2007-04-17 04:28 pm UTC (link)
Yeah they did.

The situation of the public transport in Ottawa is ridiculous. And the fact that to cover Ottawa - Gatineau you have to with TWO companies is also ridiculous.

As for the current O-Train, it stops at the river while the track cross the river to Quebec....

And the transitway. This thing should have been a tram. Electric. Why? Because it would pollute less. Why a tram? Because you could still allow to have busses go through eventually. But the cost of building the Transitway vs build it as a tram line is marginal, and the long term benefit is towards the tram.

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[info]sabotabby
2007-04-17 02:21 pm UTC (link)
Great analysis. As one who is wont to complain about suburban idiots (they vote in assholes, they pay lower taxes, and they smog up the city with their SUVs), it's nice to be reminded that their interests and ours aren't automatically opposed.

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[info]wlach
2007-04-17 04:15 pm UTC (link)
The sort of complaining you're talking about is exactly the sort of thing that the Harper government loves. Their modus operandi is to divide the country into a bunch of competing interests, and then go after the votes of those whose interests they think they can pander to. If we're going to create a better world, we have to try and break this unproductive cycle.

Complaining that the current government isn't pandering to our narrow interests is just going to make the problem worse. The conservatives didn't pick up any seats in the urban centers in the last election... and every indication is that they don't care to in the next one, either (so long as they pick up votes in their main "market segments").

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[info]morethanreal
2007-04-17 08:03 pm UTC (link)
The US politicians clearly loves this also, with the red state/blue state madness, while in reality the country is more purple.

What is bad about this?

  • They pretend that the real distinction of the parties are on marginal issues, and voters identify with those instead of the real issues at hand.
  • It helps with negative campaigning. I don't know why saying "we're not as bad as they are!" is productive, but I guess it works.
  • It fosters stereotypes about certain regions and increases divisiveness, even though stereotypes are always partly based on truth.


For a society like ours, shouldn't there be a general idea of good policies for a better world? It's not like we're trying to recover from a war, trying to rebuild our economy, trying to build basic infrastructure, etc.. Is politics mainly a waste of time?

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[info]wlach
2007-04-18 01:45 am UTC (link)
Yes, politics is mostly a waste of time. :) Watch the kindergarten games in the Canadian house of commons if you're bored someday... unfortunately, the decisions made in the public sphere have a fairly direct impact on my life, so I really can't help but get engaged in them to some extent (mostly by talking about the issues with anyone who cares to listen to me).

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[info]zaitcev
2007-04-18 12:35 am UTC (link)
Maybe Ottawians found some new magic formula, but in the U.S. the light rail invariably wastes money (not to mention taking the useful real estate from roads). In San Jose, California, enough money is wasted to lease every rider a BMW X5.

Lileks lampooned the irrational love of anything with a rail (and the associated political sentiment) so:

"The preferred model for a nice, controlled population is a dense city where your small apartment has a tiny fridge stocked with bean curd molded into pleasant, food-like shapes. Trains take you to your job, which is either building trains, fixing trains, designing public service posters for trains, cleaning trains or writing software to operate trains. Once a week you'll pull on your best taupe-hued hemp jumpsuit and take the train to the biweekly Culture Expo to hear something held up to enlightened ridicule (anything's game, except Islam and Global Warming)."

And sure enough, one commenter already wanted to run a tram along the Transitway. What a charming idea. And of course, the suburbanites will pay for it, simply because they pay the majority of the taxes. Ain't it smart!

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[info]wlach
2007-04-18 01:21 am UTC (link)
Who do you think pays for highways? The road fairy? Public infrastructure is never a money making proposition: you have to look at the whole picture (including all the externalities) before making a judgement as to whether these kinds of projects makes economic sense. As it is, the scale of transit use in Ottawa has reached a level where the advantages of rail over the bus system have become compelling. It obviously doesn't make sense everywhere.

I also think you're a bit confused about the transitway (understandable, if you're not from Ottawa): it's reserved purely for the bus system. It's also incredibly overcrowded at peak times, much to the annoyance of anyone who has to use it.

Your quotation is pure ideological nonsense, exactly the sort of thing that inhibits meaningful discussion on these sorts of issues.

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[info]zaitcev
2007-04-18 01:40 am UTC (link)
The problem with your reasoning is that light rail _adds_ to the road expenditures without providing the corresponding benefit. So removing light rail is a win everywhere. But like I said, maybe Ottawa has a unique excuse.

I know what Ottawa's transitway is, I ride it every time when coming to OLS.

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light rail wastes money?
[info]nbrown2
2007-12-22 04:13 am UTC (link)
How do you figure that light rail wastes money?

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Just do something already (or I'll start building my own monorail)
(Anonymous)
2007-04-20 07:15 am UTC (link)
I’m a daily commuter here in Ottawa and agree that a bit more money would be spent on improving public transit if Mayor Larry took a bus or train to work instead of his gold Mercedes.

Personally I don’t care what type/mode/style of public transportation the city decides to go with – I am happy leaving that decision that to engineers and any community groups or activists who have more knowledge of current transportation technologies than I.

What I would like to see is some clear action from the city to prove that it would rather not have 62.7% of its employed workforce idling in cars on the 417 every weekday morning.

A huge majority of car commuters are single occupants (at last count only 6.9% of Ottawa’s workforce carpool to work every day). Often I’ve missed the bus and stood at the stop for 10 or 12 minutes watching three lanes of single-passenger vehicles drive by me. Few look over at me, none have ever stopped to offer me a lift. While some may it’s “safest” for me to wait for the next bus, I often wonder if it wouldn’t be more efficient to move away from the bus stop and extend my thumb. I would gladly give them my bus fare (enough $ to pay for 2 L of gas and depending on your car/truck/suv it takes approx 1-3 L of gas for my 12KM commute)


I think the city is still missing the point on transporting the public. We only need to be transported if we can’t get from point A to point B by more viable means. I biked to work today, and I could have started biking much earlier in the month. I didn’t because every few clicks there were lengths of the path still covered in snow. With so many resources dedicated to keeping the roads and sidewalks clean, you’d think they could spare a sidewalk cleaner or two to clean off the major bike paths in the spring.

And why must public transit only mean busses, taxis, trains and trams? What happened to the Monorail!!! …or maybe that’s more of a Shelbyville idea…

Regards,
J.Garlough.

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Re: Just do something already (or I'll start building my own monorail)
[info]wlach
2007-04-23 03:19 am UTC (link)
Thanks for the thoughtful comment!

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